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Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.05 21:52:00 - [1] :argh: Support denied. The entire reason we formed an alliance is to be able to avoid the stupid "Vote for wardec. Wait 24 hours. Put wardec through. Wait another 24 hours" crap.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:17:00 - [2] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Thann Starlinbow :argh: Support denied. The entire reason we formed an alliance is to be able to avoid the stupid "Vote for wardec. Wait 24 hours. Put wardec through. Wait another 24 hours" crap. There is a big difference between making a war dec and dissolving an alliance of a few thousand people instantaneously because one disgruntled person got a bug up his ass about something or other. Should treat your directors better and/or not put ultimate authority in the hands of someone you don't know if you can trust or not, maybe? Seems like sound practice to me.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:45:00 - [3] Going to point out that 'Majority abstain = no' is also terrible due to the fact that sometimes things need to get done 'now'. Well, what if a couple of your CEO's are on vacation and suddenly you can't do anything because they 'abstain'? You need to think this through some more.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Going to point out that 'Majority abstain = no' is also terrible due to the fact that sometimes things need to get done 'now'. Well, what if a couple of your CEO's are on vacation and suddenly you can't do anything because they 'abstain'? You need to think this through some more. I am not sure a specific mechanic need be decided here. Just that CCP should put some tripwire in place. Maybe have a 24 hour period where nothing happens once the "dissolve alliance" button is pushed and another Director or CEO can un-push the button. Have an automated e-mail sent to all members that says "Alliance will be dissolved in 24 hours from the time of this note." Waiting 24 hours for an alliance to dissolve is not that onerus. Why? They havn't done anything about it happening in the past, why is it special now? BOB are not special, sorry.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:59:00 - [5] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Why? They havn't done anything about it happening in the past, why is it special now? BOB are not special, sorry. It is special because of the scale of the thing. This affects all of EVE when the Alliance was on this scale. Of course for those of us on the sidelines it is all fascinating to watch and even an opportunity. But ONE guy should not be able to wield power on this scale. There is supposed to be balance in games and this is not a balanced mechanic. It really makes no freaking sense. It'd be like the President of the United States hands over a substantial portion of US military equipment to the Russians, turns off all the nukes and radar defenses, dissolves the United States entirely then goes to bed. Just absurd. Real life analogies don't apply to this situation well. Read the post above yours. I'd post more but work is over and I'm going home now. Ciao.
Thann Starlinbow Minmatar Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.05 23:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Thann Starlinbow Real life analogies don't apply to this situation well. Read the post above yours. It does not make sense in a game either. I understand what the guy above me is saying and it makes sense. Nevertheless allowing a single person that kind of power is silly. It's called game balance. The issue here is irrevocable and profound changes to all these people. Not just kicking one corp here or there. If the executor corp holds that much power fine with me. But then the Directors should come to some accord or have a veto option or somesuch so no one person can undo everything. I strongly suspect if it happened to you then you would not be so keen on this mechanic. No one is calling for a roll back (except that one guy). Just plug this glaring hole in the mechanics. Actually, I've had an alliance stolen out from underneath me before. I said "Welp." and wardec'd them, shot them for a while and then moved along. Like I said, this isn't special just because it's BOB or just because it's big. It has happened before, it will happen again.

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